mokona96
Also, I think Unmovable Omega should stun the opponent for a certain amount of time, instead of raising defe
macfluffers
You're right about Unmovable Omega. I thought about it, but I didn't put it in because I thought my idea was simpler, but the stunning makes a lot more sense.By the way, I added attacks for the other charact
allanpike
/coloroWell you see, the nexus is a place that exists outside of the time-stream, so it doesnot get effected by the Genensis - which originates from here - and the armegeddon. But you see, it doesn't just exists outside of the time, it also exists at all places in time, this is what allows the Jagar to hunt anywhere they please.Yeah... I would hardly say that they are forced to Mok, but anyway the point is that Jagar's and Pheniox have a close number of chromozones - thanks to a little bit of magic - and it is this that lets a hybrid, through like all true hybrids. Venator is unfertile.colorc/co
macfluffers
Your character......is a Jagar, the best hunters across all the timelines....is a phoenix, an immortal creature....is a hybrid, the crossing of two separate ways of existence....lives in Nexus, a place outside of time and space....wields a fusion sword, a Swiss Army weapon that furcates into 9 others....is an MMA, knowing 9 separate and distinct ways to fight....has wings, giving him the gift of flight.Need I go on? There's probably more. Characters need some normalcy to be understandable, but yours is so epically fantastic, it's too much. If your character had only two or even three of those traits, I think it would be fine. An expert MMA with a crazy weapon and wings? It's still a little too over the top, but it's acceptable. A Jagar-phoenix hybrid? Sure. A winged being who lives in Nexus and wields a mighty weapon? Great! (That one actually sounds really good compared to the other combos.)The point is that you've tacked on too much awesome to your character. He's almost parodic in his design. I strongly suggest you tone him d
allanpike
/coloro'normalcy to be understandable'? How the hell is my character not understandable?Look the reason he is MMA (and having wings.) Is so he can play the role he is intended to - a jack-off-all trades that can change accordingly to the circmstances, so that isn't going. Neither is his weapon, as it suits him more then anyother weapon. I guess his race and/or the fact that he is a hybrid could be changed... but then, how else could he have lived to be so old? Him being a pheniox is what has kept him alive, and the Jagar part of him is what gives him the pyschail abilties to truely be MMA. Most of the things you listed are just a fundermental part of his character, both Ge.Nen.Sis wise, and other wise.One thing through, he was born in the Nexus. He doesn't live there... in fact he has no home, he wanders wherever the wind takes him. (both the nomal wind and 'time' wind).He is hardly what I would call 'too much awesome' he's just different nad unquie. He is no more or no less awesome then my other character, Arrencolorc/co
macfluffers
"Just a fundamental part of his character"? I know that they're fundamental parts of his character. The fact that they're important character traits makes it worse.Lets see:- Jacks of all trades are fine, but they can't be too skilled at anything or else they're not Jacks of all trades anymore--then they're specialists without weaknesses.- Why does he need to be old? Being old is fine, but why is is necessary?- He doesn't need to be a member of the universe's greatest race of hunters to be a decent mixed martial artist. Normal people make great fighters already. Just look at the canon Ge.ne.sis characters in the first game. All the main characters (protagonist and antagonist) were humans, except for Emi. Even then, Emi wasn't from a great society of electro-urgists. She was just a flower-collecting girl who knew some lightning magic.As I said, those traits aren't bad things, it just that you have too many of those types of outlandish traits attached to a single person.It doesn't matter how you justify it, my point still stands. He's a Swiss Army person, he can fly, he's ancient, he freely travels between timelines, he has an ability list that's thirty attacks long, etc. I'm sorry, but he's a poor character. He has too much tacked on to one person.Let me put it this way: what is his weakness? What are his fl
allanpike
/coloro1. He isn't specailized in aything, apart from maybe hunting... but that doesn't really effect the gameplay.2. It gives reason to why he has so many fighting style's - he has had time to learn them, I could chorten the age through.3. Maybe so, but knowing all of these fighting style's is quite hard and to learn them when they are quite different... well his pyshcial abitlites give him a little help in learn them as he already as part of the psychical requirements for the style.They are hardly what I would call outlandish.Yeah... he doesn't move 'freely' between timelines, he doesn't really have much choice on that matter. Plus well... I'm going to make it so that his wings are to weak to let him fly and that he isn't that old.His weaknesses? The usaul weaknesses of a jack off all trade, they aren't as good as a specialist, they can't do as much damage as a person dedicated too attack, nor can they surrive as much as a person dedicated to defence... As for his flaws? Well his flwas is that he gets really angry at people that betray him, and he tends to work with tunnel vision.colorc/co
mokona96
2.You could shorten the age a lot. Nobody said he mastered the styles, and it doesn't take 200 years to master a fighting style anyway.3. They aren't all that different. And two of them he made himself. And once again, with the physical capabilities of a Jagar, a jack-of-all-trades character style, and enough wit to have 9 fighting styles and use them all, this character seems a little overpowered. The ultimate character turned jack-of-all-trades is still the ultimate character.His character flaws? He might get tricked without knowing it and turn evil? Oh no! Bad guys win instantly, end of st
allanpike
/coloroWell I've said he's mastered the fighting style... and yeah, I'm not desceasing his age, 2800 isn't that much.Yeah... in game, his attributes are (overall) going to be no higher then anyone else's, they are jsut going to be more balanced. Blade isn't 'the ultimute character' he never was, he has always simply been a jack-off-all trades.Yeah... he isn't stupid you know, I mean he's learnt more then just how to fight during his life... so he isn't just going to be 'tricked' its just that, he might have a mission which gets in the other's ways that's all... and even if he 'turned evil' the bad guy wouldn't instantly win... Arren with the surrviour build would be able to take him on in a one on one fight.Go and recheck what the styles do, and what there attack are like, I've decreased the power by quite a bit... colorc/co
mokona96
1800 isn't old? We live for less than a hundred freaking years! How is 1800 not old?AlsoquoteoQUOTE quotecVenator again draws his secondary Venator, but uses in conjunction with his primary Venator for defence.QuoteEndQuoteEEnd does not make sense. If you're using any kind of text replacement program you want to make sure that it makes sense. Don't click 'replace all' arbitrarily.EDIT: Tweaked the character form. Added Moveset and Stats and Perks secti
animemaster
I tried to do the same thing, create a character where he used many weapons, but the idea didn't work out too well. Many inconsistencies and I thought it started to become OP.Now back to the character discussion.The character is definitely over the top. He just has way too much... I get his power lies within his flexibility, but There are too many abusable strategies.In a sense, if there were 2 characters on the board, You can literally spam the crap out of conservment, while Sisily or Whoever just gives you energy for a revive.Also, Overwhelm style is really OP like crazy... I'd rather use another winged being, just not the phoenix, The Resurrection thing is really powerful....... enough with this part.It also confuses me a bit, the "fusion swords" he hasquoteoQUOTE quotecWeapon: Fusion Swords. 9 swords that can interlock to make one big sword, which is its default appearance ....QuoteEndQuoteEEndI don't get why you would say that, when he only uses ALL of his swords for ONE style. (Overwhelm style) Brings me up to my next point, What happens to the other 7 blades? (You referenced max of 2 blades in a style.) StoryI don't get how he is supposedly supposed to live to be 1800 years.Contrary to popular belief, Phoenixes aren't immortal. They live to be about 500 years old (Greek Mythology) max up to 1000 if they are lucky.But, the thing is a phoenix lives forever due to is reincarnation ability. What really happens to a phoenix? It hatches -> Phoenix lives to 500 years soaring the skies. -> After it is done living, (roughly the last year in its life cycle) It makes a nest, Spawns an egg. -> When this egg is spawned, it is actually a clone of itself in a sense, like an exact copy of itself to "Live again"-> the old phoenix returns to ashes from once it came to be reborn again. and the life cycle continues.The problem is, your character is a HYBRID, from a feline-like animal and a bird. (I seriously don't get how this happens....)He wouldn't be able to have the "egg ability" for 1 main reason reasons.He is a MAMMAL. (Mammals do not lay eggs)Yes, I get I am being realistic, but there are just a lot of inconsistencies between the real and fictional world...
allanpike
/coloroConseverment? Why would you 'spam' the crap out of that anyway? I mean it deals practicly no damage... hell I've edited the damange rating so now its only 0.5. So yeah, you would be doing about no damage at all with that... Ressurection has been edited to its a lot more costly.Overwhelm has been weaked.You would rather, but I don't. He is my character... and I haven't completely made him just for this you know.That has been changed so that now he uses a different primary blade for each style.Yeah yeah... 1 I've changed it to 2800 as that what it was meant to be... and as for how he can live that old? Well he is freaking non-human you know! Prehaps the Jagar race can live for a long time?And I know that the Greek Pheniox's can't ressurect themselves... but the pheniox that is Blade's mother can.colorc/co
macfluffers
And about his weakness being that he isn't good at each style? If he practiced each style for 200 years each, he'd have 1000 years left over. If he can't become a godlike master of a martial art over the course of 200 years, then his true weakness is that he has a severe learning disability. Furthermore, how long is his lifespan? Even if Jagars live for a long time, 2800 years old and still fit to fight seems like a stretch.Old characters are tricky to write, both those with realistic and unrealistic
allanpike
/coloroNoted, and edited a bit to involve the vice's of immortality.Again, noted and edited to hopefully fix that problem.colorc/co
mokona96
Also, I don't think secondary characters get changeable pe
allanpike
/coloroIt means that, normally power adds damage to the attack, in coservement through, it doesn't.Nyeh I guess... Ah well I'll be leaving them their, and if they aren't put into the game, then they aren't put into the game...any other critisms for my character?colorc/co
chamomileess
WHAT is the purpose of this thread? To discuss potentially playable characters in the Seq
joshyface
quoteo(post=4715:date=Oct 28 2010, 06:50 PM:name=Mokona)QUOTE (Mokona @ Oct 28 2010, 06:50 PM) quotecAn, some of the other forum members and I were wondering if we could hold a Ge.Ne.Sis character contest. The contest would be presided over by you, (or whomever you choose) and the winner would either get their character put into a game of yours (hopefully a player character), or some other prize of your choosing, such as an illustration of the character. So far, we have a limit of three characters per person, but that is subject to change. Thank you!QuoteEndQuoteEEndquoteo(post=4718:date=Oct 28 2010, 07:48 PM:name=An)QUOTE (An @ Oct 28 2010, 07:48 PM) quotecMonoka: Sound like a fun ideas! Yeah, I'm for it! I don't want to be the sole judge for the winner tho, you guys should pick judges as well or hold a majority vote. I can put the winner character design into the game as playable cameo or something like that.QuoteEndQuoteEEndThis topic is where you post and get critics on your character. The characters deadline is new years day, just so you k
chamomileess
That helps, a LOT. At this rate, I may submit one myself then...Is there a certain set of Criteria that we must follow?For example:Do we have to include backstory behind the characters? If so, how long does it have to be?Will all their attacks have to be described in detail? If so, then the various damage formulae are required, and a description of the attack would also be necessary, no?Will we be required to plan out stats (base health, AGI, STR, ENDURE, MAGIC, movement, etc) and the other nit-picky details?If these questions get answered, I think we'll see a lot less "Spontaneous-OP-Character-Creation" syndrome, and it'll give us a better basis on how to critique the various characters that come
joshyface
QUOTE (Mokona @ Oct 29 2010, 01:26 PM) quotecThis is a Ge.Ne.Sis character contest!sizeo:4/sizeoRules:sizec/sizec1. No more than three characters per person. Otherwise it gets unbalanced.2. All characters must be in by New Years Day, 2011.3. No spamming.sizeo:4/sizeoPrize:sizec/sizecThe winning character will get a playable cameo in one of An's games.sizeo:4/sizeoFormsizec/sizec (Borrowed quite heavily from Stragas' character contest.)Full Name:Nickname or Preferred name (Optional):Age (Optional):Birthplace (Optional):Physical Appearance:Biography:Personality:Weapon:Fighting Style (Optional):Moveset (Optional):Stats and Perks (Optional): Extra Information (Optional):QuoteEndQuoteEEndHere is the applicant form. There are no real specifics. The amount you write is up to you, but you will most likely get more votes the more detail you include, provided you don't op you're charac
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