raf9900
That would allow you to start out agressive and then turn into another strategy, making the strategy more lo
EternalLurker
Cough.Unless Soulbursts get a major nerf next game, they're so incredibly broken that making them even MORE powerful is crazy-t
raf9900
eah, you're probably right. But how about doing it with dismiss like I'm suggesting now? That ought to make people think twice before soulbursting right a
joshyface
ot really. Dismissing never does anything for anyone besides clear up space on the field. You might as well soulburst; clearing up a space and giving a awesome eff
allan pike
Secondly. If I have read this argument correctly... isn't the suggestion to switch out Tarot's instantly? Not having to dismiss then summon, but do both at o
timbits1o1
ell...yes...josh maintains that no changes are needed, due to no one using dismisses, and soulbursts being more practical. This is what Raf9900 is trying to fix, by making dismisses simultaneously summon another tarot through a high energy cost. EL maintains that soulbursts need to be nerfed, but right now we're talking about making dismisses more useful, instead of everyone soulbursting. Personally, i like this idea, as it makes for faster paced battles and quick changes of strategy, allowing more variat
raf9900
hanks. At least someone notcied what I'm trying to say. I don't get it, Josh: You're saying that dismiss is useless, and I'm trying to fix that. How is that an argum
allan pike
I have one question to ask on this however - once you summon a Tarot, then swap it out. Does that fully heal it and will you be able to resummon it? Because in accordance to the link that shows the powers of soul bursts. If you manage to have such high energy constantly, you'll be able to get a powerful tarot out, avoid healing then swap out when its low on health, just to swap it back in again. Meaning you can just keep attacking. To note, it goes hand-in-hand with the Priest's soul burst. Eliminating your biggest healer, but also making it so that you can keep swapping Tarot's. Thus eliminating about half of the healing you need to
raf9900
never tried it before, but I assume you can never ressumon a tarot, even if you just dismiss it. That would be a real gamebreaker, especially with 4 tarots per caracter. You see, you can't see this as swapping, more like killing your current tarot to bring the next
allan pike
see... well that was the main thing about that. If you can only summon them once, and once they are gone they are gone. Then I have no problems with it. Through of course, it will have to be balanced with Soulburst so that you don't always wish to soul-bu
joshyface
why do we need this swapping mechanic? I still do not see how it is practi
raf9900
Unless, of course, you're trying to say something I just don't get. Did someone get the argum
joshyface
And again, how is it practical? my brain still does not understand this idea. I can't actually make an argument because i do not fully understand
raf9900
Despite costing a respectable fee, the Soulburst is so useful it overshadows the dismiss ability. No one never cares about dismiss, and the techinque is never used.At the same time, we got a lot of tarots that offer different strategies, but only one or two can be used in a single battle. If you start one way, you'll be likely to finish that same way due to logistics problems.How to fix those two problems?If you allow dismiss to have the extra effect (at a certain energy cost, of course) to instantly summon another tarot, you'll be trading the awesome soulburst for a quicker change in strategy. This should allow a more fluid gameplay AND give some functionality to the otherwise useless dismiss ability.Example: You have a large group of strong, but slow units coming at you. You start with long ranged tarots (and/or hanged man, witch works just as well.) to weaken their force. When they get to you, you swiftly change those tarots to close-ranged units and finish them. If you tried to soulburst, you'd be vulnerable for one turn, and that could mean defeat. If you tried just one approach, the enemy could probbably take advantage on that strategy's weakness.See what I'm suggest
EternalLurker
QUOTE (timbits1o1 @ Oct 23 2011, 12:02 PM) quotecwell...yes...josh maintains that no changes are needed, due to no one using dismisses, and soulbursts being more practical. This is what Raf9900 is trying to fix, by making dismisses simultaneously summon another tarot through a high energy cost. EL maintains that soulbursts need to be nerfed, but right now we're talking about making dismisses more useful, instead of everyone soulbursting.QuoteEndQuoteEEndThat new idea is fine. The reason I pointed out that soulbursts shouldn't be strengthened is that Raf's idea was a soulburst+summon combo, instead of the dismiss+summon combo which you suggested.So, yes, changing "Dismiss" to "Swap" would be fine. Changing "Soulburst" to "Soulburst+Swap" would be terri
raf9900
Funny how a bad idea was the source of a good one. Happens too often to
allan pike
fficial suggestion st
raf9900
eah, well... A "supported by the merbers" stamp of approval. Not an actual protocol, just a joke. (And an unfunny one now that it's explain
