mariobros777
...Like do you want to give a message to people who play this g
an
want to say yes but it is actually no. I just wanted to make a world full of my creations and let my imagination run wild. I also wanted to try out a fairly new battle system and slightly different approach to normal RPG games. So, i wasn't really trying to be preaching anyth
mariobros777
About Dreams.About Messing with Time.About Trust.There should be something you wanted to get out of thi
an
If i must pick a theme tho, in general it would be the unbearable insignificant of lives, the fragility of reality and incredible power of the mind to alter the whole world by changing one's perceptions.Wierd
yosako
QUOTE (An @ Oct 25 2009, 05:04 AM) quotecThere are some undertone and philosophy belief engraved in the story of genesis and they all carry meanings. Whenever you play a game with story or watch a movies, there will always be messages. It is just that I didn't want to be explicit about it and everyone will probably have their own interpretations.If i must pick a theme tho, in general it would be the unbearable insignificant of lives, the fragility of reality and incredible power of the mind to alter the whole world by changing one's perceptions.Wierd huh?QuoteEndQuoteEEndThe underlying message in this game is...make a single tactical error and it's Game Over. And if you survive life's challenges, thank Lady Luck for that. Just kidding. /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> What it happens is that a single mistake in the setup usually costs you the whole bat
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As well as final fantasy tactics and fire emblem series for the battle gameplayIf i am right, please dont be offended in any way, many of these games were and always will be classics that were way ahead of their times, at least to
mariobros777
He gave the idea that "Reality" (the world we know and live in now) is only just one branch of a series of different realms.The connecting nodes (not to be confused with how those 3 people got in, because they got in by a non-linear path.) is the confusing bit because to change from reality to an alternate world is confusing, unless that alternate world that reality goes into is similar to what reality is.The line of time that these 3 people were completely different. Which voids a couple of previous explanations that An/Gelyan said and raises a few questions.1. If dreams are one way to get into an alternative realm and Gelyan explained (or in the diagram) that dreams aren't the only way to get into an alternative realm, then what is that way?2. Gelyan raised a question about how dreams can only have people that you've previously known. Wouldn't that mean that Gely/Nera/Sisi have seen each other before, ALONG WITH seeing some of these other characters that are in the game? (Emi... etc.)3. About messing up time, when Gely poured the honey onto the Bean. That wasn't honey he poured but it was the red potion since we saw them change time and the honey. So when we first saw them pouring the honey, the honey actually didn't change the Bean (Since it probably wouldn't have done anything.) the red potion did, but when you were first battling the Bean, you didn't know that it was the red potion that changed the Bean, but in fact, the red potion did because of a time paradox. That was smart, An! (I could go on forever about this but...no...)Wow...yea
an
QUOTE (TGCid @ Oct 26 2009, 07:10 AM) quotecWhile playing the game, and enjoying the story i had a hunch you played chrono trigger, and chrono cross growing up (maybe even radical dreamers) for helping create your story. (xenogears/saga as a long shot)As well as final fantasy tactics and fire emblem series for the battle gameplayIf i am right, please dont be offended in any way, many of these games were and always will be classics that were way ahead of their times, at least to me.QuoteEndQuoteEEndWhy would I be offended , no worries lol. Can you even call yourself an RPG fan if you never played Chrono Trigger. That is probly my favorite RPG game. I played chrono cross as well, but never finished it and didn't like it as much. I do like the music in chrono cross tho. Never played Radical Dreamers but I have heard of it. I knew about Xenogear and had a general idea of they was about, but never got into them.As weird as it may be, I didn't like Final Fantasy Tactic at all. I have played it a few time but quickly got bored. I think grinding for levels and job points just wasn't my thing. On another hand, I loved Fire Emblem on the NES and SNES for being challenging (your character die permanently), i have played the ones on Gameboy Advance as well but they are much easier. Ge.ne.sis duel sequel is inspired by fire emblem with my own take on it.Basicly, Genesis gameplay took what I like best in the games I played and put together with added mechanism and new features.I havent played any serious game for the last 2 or 3 years so I don't know much about the newer games. But yeah, those was games from my childh
rickythefish
QUOTE (An @ Oct 26 2009, 12:22 AM) quotecWhy would I be offended , no worries lol. Can you even call yourself an RPG fan if you never played Chrono Trigger. That is probly my favorite RPG game. I played chrono cross as well, but never finished it and didn't like it as much. I do like the music in chrono cross tho. Never played Radical Dreamers but I have heard of it. I knew about Xenogear and had a general idea of they was about, but never got into them.As weird as it may be, I didn't like Final Fantasy Tactic at all. I have played it a few time but quickly got bored. I think grinding for levels and job points just wasn't my thing. On another hand, I loved Fire Emblem on the NES and SNES for being challenging (your character die permanently), i have played the ones on Gameboy Advance as well but they are much easier. Ge.ne.sis duel sequel is inspired by fire emblem with my own take on it.Basicly, Genesis gameplay took what I like best in the games I played and put together with added mechanism and new features.I havent played any serious game for the last 2 or 3 years so I don't know much about the newer games. But yeah, those was games from my childhood.QuoteEndQuoteEEndChrono Trigger is easily in my top five... maybe my top three. , , ... those are probably my top three all-time favourite SNES games, and actually probably my top three favourite games ever. is in there too, but it's not an RPG. I did like Chrono Cross, although I thought that the method of getting the "good" ending was completely ridiculous. Xenogears was a fun game, but a bit boring at parts. Legend of Dragoon was a pretty good game too, and I liked the combat system at first, but it did get exhausting after a while. And as far as Final Fantasy Tactics is concerned: I understand why some people wouldn't like the grinding... heck, that's what turns me off of most MMOGs is the excessive grinding. However, I played FFT for over 80 hours on one file, and had three different files at one point. T.G. Cid is completely overpowered, by the way. =)An, I think the permanent death in FFT is kind of like your limitations in Ge.Ne.Sis (such as Gely's inability to move and act on the same turn); it forces the player to set up a strategy that either will involve characters taking non-fatal amounts of damage, or ending the fight before any sacrificed characters permanently die. Of course, no one permanently dies in Ge.Ne.Sis, but you see what I m
yosako
hat a comparison. Ge.ne.sis kicks Chrono Trigger's ass in both storyline and ambient, it's much better even when it's a shorter and non-commercial game. Not to mention the music...CT's music made me vomit, excluding Magus' Theme which was barely
an
ventough I feel extreme flattered by your compliment on Ge.ne.sis, I still have to say that Chrono Trigger was very ahead of its time and a step stone for cRPG to the western market. It is not possible to compare the two games and I'm sure there CT will always be a fan favorite for years to come. I personally enjoyed the music in CT very much as w
annie_tita
QUOTE (MB777 @ Oct 26 2009, 01:21 PM) quotecI've been thinking a lot about Gelyan's explanation about alternate worlds.He gave the idea that "Reality" (the world we know and live in now) is only just one branch of a series of different realms.The connecting nodes (not to be confused with how those 3 people got in, because they got in by a non-linear path.) is the confusing bit because to change from reality to an alternate world is confusing, unless that alternate world that reality goes into is similar to what reality is.The line of time that these 3 people were completely different. Which voids a couple of previous explanations that An/Gelyan said and raises a few questions.1. If dreams are one way to get into an alternative realm and Gelyan explained (or in the diagram) that dreams aren't the only way to get into an alternative realm, then what is that way?2. Gelyan raised a question about how dreams can only have people that you've previously known. Wouldn't that mean that Gely/Nera/Sisi have seen each other before, ALONG WITH seeing some of these other characters that are in the game? (Emi... etc.)3. About messing up time, when Gely poured the honey onto the Bean. That wasn't honey he poured but it was the red potion since we saw them change time and the honey. So when we first saw them pouring the honey, the honey actually didn't change the Bean (Since it probably wouldn't have done anything.) the red potion did, but when you were first battling the Bean, you didn't know that it was the red potion that changed the Bean, but in fact, the red potion did because of a time paradox. That was smart, An! (I could go on forever about this but...no...)Wow...yeah...QuoteEndQuoteEEndin the First one, uhmm, i've heard about the 4-alternative world theory ( i heard it in Vietnamese and i don't know the exact name in English ), the theory say that there's 4 alternative world, the reality world, the dream world, the mirror world and the psyche world. So maybe you could hit your head to the mirror and hope that you could enter the mirror world, or use time-machine or do some ceremony then /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" /> and, i'm the fan of Peter Pan -'o'- all hail Peter Pan -'o'- long live Peter Pan. He never grows old and never stop believeing in Fairytale -'_'- i'm so jealous T_T~
EternalLurker
QUOTE (Yosako @ Oct 26 2009, 02:07 PM) quotecWhat a comparison. Ge.ne.sis kicks Chrono Trigger's ass in both storyline and ambient, it's much better even when it's a shorter and non-commercial game. Not to mention the music...CT's music made me vomit, excluding Magus' Theme which was barely OK.QuoteEndQuoteEEndwait whatCT's music is in the top three of all SNES games in my list. What Mitsuda was able to do given the system's hardware limitations was pretty incredible. (That probably comes from the fact that he was primarily working as a sound engineer on the system before composing for it.) Hell, it's universally hailed as such to the point that it even has its own Wiki article.
yosako
QUOTE (EternalLurker @ Oct 27 2009, 03:48 AM) quotecWhat Mitsuda was able to do given the system's hardware limitations was pretty incredible.QuoteEndQuoteEEndIf it comes to that, Rob Hubbard did a even more impressive job with Saboteur 2' theme...on a ZX Spectrum's crappy hardware!.As for Mitsuda... I really hate Chrono Trigger's music, but I like some of his themes in other games. From him I'd pick "Dream of the Shore Bordering Another World" (Chrono Cross) and "Small Two of Pieces" (Xenogears). I'm extremely picky with music, and those two managed to "pass the filter" /laugh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":lol:" border="0" alt="laugh.gif"
EternalLurker
Saboteur 2's theme is pretty noisy and messy, and doesn't really go anywhere. is Chrono Trigger's SNES-equivalent to , and even ignoring the hardware limitations I often find that I prefer the former.What Super Nintendo game soundtracks do you enjoy? If the answer is "none" then hardware limitations are indeed your issue. If not, please elaborate on which soundtracks you prefer to the one that you claim makes you "vomit&qu
yosako
QUOTE (EternalLurker @ Oct 28 2009, 02:55 AM) quotecSaboteur 2's theme is pretty noisy and messy, and doesn't really go anywhere.QuoteEndQuoteEEndListen to Marcel Donné's remake, called "Saboteur 2 Revisited". It's the same theme but re-made with the right tools (The ZX Spectrum' hardware wasn't exactly designed to sound good).quoteo(post=627:date=Oct 28 2009, 02:55 AM:name=EternalLurker)QUOTE (EternalLurker @ Oct 28 2009, 02:55 AM) quotecWhat Super Nintendo game soundtracks do you enjoy? If the answer is "none" then hardware limitations are indeed your issue. If not, please elaborate on which soundtracks you prefer to the one that you claim makes you "vomit".QuoteEndQuoteEEndFrom the SNES I could tell a few interesting tracks:From "The 7th Saga":- Dungeon Battle- Church ThemeFrom Breath of Fire 2:- You Must LiveFrom Chrono Trigger:- Magus' ThemeEarthworm Jim 2:- Anything but TangerinesFinal Fantasy III:- Aria Di Mezzo Carattere- Awakening- Searching for Friends- Shadow's ThemeLufia and the Fortress of Doom:- The Fortress of DoomShadowrun:- 2nd
EternalLurker
QUOTE (Yosako @ Oct 27 2009, 05:39 PM) quotecIf it comes to that, Rob Hubbard did a even more impressive job with Saboteur 2' theme...on a ZX Spectrum's crappy hardware!.QuoteEndQuoteEEndquoteo(post=666:date=Oct 28 2009, 05:59 PM:name=Yosako)QUOTE (Yosako @ Oct 28 2009, 05:59 PM) quotecListen to Marcel Donné's remake, called "Saboteur 2 Revisited". It's the same theme but re-made with the right tools (The ZX Spectrum' hardware wasn't exactly designed to sound good).QuoteEndQuoteEEndAre you trying to contradict yourself as much as possi
yosako
QUOTE (EternalLurker @ Oct 29 2009, 01:18 AM) quotecAre you trying to contradict yourself as much as possible?QuoteEndQuoteEEndNo. I liked the original theme even when the hardware it was played on sucked. It only sounds messy because on the ZX you can't do much better! Unless you think it doesn't have merit to dig a hole when all you have is a spoon. Nemesis the Warlock is another piece worth listening, again if you find the sound messy get Donné's remake.As for Magus' theme being included on the list, well. I'll save that track from Chrono Trigger, but listening to "Enhasa - Time Circuits" ruins my
cobrakillah
ever ask author about meaning, just make your own. Simply analyze the whole story ant take the best of
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