blah701
Personally, I like using meteor, so I always want Magician to be as an artillery instead of batter
EternalLurker
eteor's pretty great. If you wanna spam field attacks (Soul Eater, Meteor, and Lightning Rod every single turn is pretty hilarious), you don't have much choice but to make Sisily a battery, with +Energy perks and
rainen
ow well does a soul bonded fool stand up against reficul? I was thinking that maybe after soul bonding him and gely you could soul burst death and then bring out HP for extra healing. Also if you have the right build on nera would it be possible to have her tank with moon waltz and then soul burst hanged man to summon hanged man then keep death out to have reficul loose hp each turn or does he regain to much? I've always wanted to just kill him for the sake of actually killing him (instead of having emi bs everybody before reficul can finish them off naturally) and i bet that if you have emi and sisily being batteries (as well as having the moon shards) it would be possible. How much would the lovers help in the reficul battle? Would they be better then having the magician using his field sp
EternalLurker
Almost no one can actually tank Reciful. If you have very little damage, you can't hurt him enough, and if you have a lot of damage, you're taking 50% of that yourself.Endurance Gelyans are the only characters with a real chance of tanking Reciful -- well, maybe a Moon Waltzing Neraine at 20 Agility could dodge most of his attacks and heal up well enough against the ones that land, but Iunno. Endurance Gelyans are also the only ones that can actually hurt him without dying in the process, but that's due to a glitch which causes Soul Pact to ignore his 50% damage reflect
obscurans
Basically, with the HP's boost, is 2x everyone's total regen > Reciful's regen? I'll assume Nera will heal off his attacks I gu
EternalLurker
He should be killable via massive tanking and spammed field attacks, though, since those don't get reflected. I've killed him without using the glitch; I used Soul Pact, but I tracked my health to make sure that it would never have hit 0, because I only used one Soul Pact a round. It was rather lucky, though, with Neraine dodging way more attacks than she should've.You don't get the Hanged Man by Reciful, or else I'm quite sure it'd be easy. Every extra party member is one more round for which you can hold off Reciful while the Magician and the Fool slam him with field attacks, and the Hanged Man's Soulburst pretty much rapes 1v1 fig
rainen
think I've hit the limit for different ways to take on Reficul. I tried using endurance Gely with having High Priest heal him and I've tried using an agility Nera to tank him. Just wondering though, does higher magic heal more with moon waltz? and can the lovers help with tanking at
mokona96
igher magic does heal more when you use moon waltz, and I don't know much about the lovers, but I would say that they don't help much. Feel free to correct
stardustdeath
QUOTE (rainen @ Jul 31 2010, 05:52 PM) quotecI think I've hit the limit for different ways to take on Reficul. I tried using endurance Gely with having High Priest heal him and I've tried using an agility Nera to tank him. Just wondering though, does higher magic heal more with moon waltz? and can the lovers help with tanking at all?QuoteEndQuoteEEndWell unless you take advantage of their field perk and don't use them for a while, Lovers do become a very large drain to your pool.Tanking wise, Lovers aren't as good as The Fool, but because of their high resist to Fire and Lightning they are more precise. However, against Reficul, neither are very good.If you're really going out to try and KILL Reficul then EL's method works best. Same way I did it. (After about twenty tries)I was kind of ticked that I didn't get the Hanged Man back in the first extra chapter after I got him in the second. HM almost guarantees a win against Reficul cause of his ridiculous perks. But hey, it's not like you gain anything from killing him anyway so no biggie ri
rainen
ea it's still fun to do it though cause then you can say you beat everybody
gelyan.
bout the builds i think that Nera IS THE STRONGEST charcter in the game (exept esis)with 40 power she can deal 20.000+ damage (omg) TO THE TALE.I know that it isn't easy to max an atroutube in ge.ne.sis but with a preaty good magik high pristres can max her power.For Sisily and her tarot a prety good magick will do the tric ARMAGEDON!with Nera protecting the magician the enemies will run from ter
mokona96
ou can also use HP's soulburst and moon waltz, unless you have a non-magic build. And I always felt that Sisily was better than her tarot, especially since gaining energy doesn't waste a t
macfluffers
o be fair, if you use Sisily to fight, you'll probably use up most of the energy you created if you use her better abilities. (If you use her cheaper abilities, then using her at all is a bit of a was
joshyface
a. I don't think you tried the same tactic with sisi, and from seeing the codes and fiddling around you would see that sisi can be quite a good fighter. Not to mention that i think her central perks look like they will be amazing. I can't remember but i know if you give up her resistances (or something along that lines) then, she gets ,i think, 150 or 200% reflection. And as we saw with recitful, reflecting attacks can be very useful. Furthermore, rainbow blood and petrifying glare seem very powerful. of course this is speculation.b. if gely keeps on the track he's on by the end of the 2nd game, he will make 20000 seem petty. Depending on your perks you can make him become a super-leech, or a great tank, with a giant hp recovery rate and constant damage. (and as an added bonus natures warden gives +5 power and magic, yay!)c. let's also forget that ge.ne.sis is about building team. Saying one character is the best is dumb. They would be nothing without the other characters.@mcfluffers That's dependant. While her lower abilities are not damage producers, they are what you go to when you are out of energy. And personally think sisi's 0 energy move is the b
mokona96
t least she doesn't need an energy source though. Unless Nera was completely magic, and even then, the Magician would be trading in turns for energy. And unless you put points into agility, Sisily'll have tons of energy to sp
joshyface
.. I don't think that making speculations on this is necessary. All the characters have flaws, and at this point we really don't know what their other move are going to
gelyan.
ory i got comfused and whrte what i wanted in the lower post how do i delete it???this post i me
joshyface
... I think you should try making sisi as something other than a battery. I mean she is the most powerful battery, no question. But I think her fighting capabilities are going to be too good to give up. Anyone else can be a batt
gelyan.
ell my opnion is to use neraine as a tank whith 20 power10-15 enturance 5 magic 15-16 agility she is the PERFECT ΤΑNK she holds a lot of damage because she can killl some enemies even beafore they strike on her!!!!and since her abilities needd low energy she can prodouse her energy as well
joshyface
And your comment on her being the perfect tank is dumb. Her natural resistance to yellow is -75%, so basically if she is hit by electricity she is dead. Especially since yellow is magic and you haven't built up her resist. Your build may be valid, but do not try and tell me that it is a "PERFECT TANK" and that she can "prodouse her energy as well.&q