blah701
You got a point. In my first time through I used sniper build, and soul bonded Gelyan was great... maybe that's why I overshadowed Fool....Regardless, what I rly don't like about Endurance build is that it overshadows Nera's abilities. Gelyan cannot stand on front without making Nera unable to attack. It really frustrates me, especially in choked maps where I cannot go two w
EternalLurker
A Soul Bonded Power Gelyan doesn't really need the Fool, yeah. Your Black damage will already be godlike, so you're better off using the Hanged Man's magical attacks for Blue-weak enemies, although if any are vulnerable to Yellow you can always use the Fool's Thunder Rod. The Fool combos exceptionally well with an Endurance Gelyan, compensating for his low range by Castling him up to the front lines, where he can tank for the party with ease.I already addressed the issue of Neraine not being a sufficient meatshield on her own unless you're going to be very campy with the High Priestess, or else just very lucky. You're a lot better off with two. If you think choked maps don't allow you enough mobility, you're just not Castling properly. The Fool is amazing. Try using the High Priestess or Emi to get behind enemy lines and then have the Fool Castle Neraine in there to replace that u
blah701
ince I needed Sisi to usually do battery role and I'm not used to Emi's recent change in energy cost, I haven't been sending them to front line recently. I'll try that along with Magician's.... what was it again? Energy Transfer?... to allow them to go to the front line. Or I'll try Sniper Gelyan again. But thanks for the i
togetic
QUOTE (Si.Ner.Ge @ Dec 4 2009, 02:52 AM) quotecAh, that might explain it. I never really saw the sense in using Gely as a "tank" character. Since Nera is forced to melee and thus she is going to draw attacks even with optimal party positioning, I figured I may as well designate her default tank, especially considering the number of maps with chokepoints (or single bosses). Gely was almost always farther back than Sisi even.Agility I can live with, since I raised Agility inordinately during my first playthrough, but I don't like how the Eyes perks force Gely to invest in Magic (which adds nothing to his offensive power and which the girls do much much better).Wait, there's a build for Sisi besides the Pure Magic build? /tongue.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":P" border="0" alt="tongue.gif" />QuoteEndQuoteEEndActually, Soul Pact (along with well-timed Blue Paradise when the Tale spams Broken Field Attack,) makes Endurance Gelyan quite the viable field attack tanker against Tale Memory, despite White weakness. With him, my Balanced Nera (call me unoriginal, but I use the official builds,) managed to beat Tale Memory WITHOUT Soul Bond. (NOte: Blue Paradise actually allows Nera to use a hybrid Moon Waltz: Moon Waltz 1-2 times, savor the OVER 9000 [and probably over 10,000] damage to Tale Master, and it essentially means TONS of bonus energy.)And if you REALLY want to feel epic win, go to YouTube and find Solaris Battle Part 2 on Truesonic1's channel. Turn off sound on Ge.Ne.Sis and begin fighting Tale Memory. Turn on the music/Youtube video when you reach the battle grid. Beat Tale Memory. Receive epic win and save transfer thingy. Vo
si.ner.ge
Gely's Soul Pact damage ignores Offensive/Defensive Position. Right?This will be good to know if/when I make him a Nature Warden in ITRH and he only has 3 Ra
plaguexroamer
On the subject of Soul Pact, is it considered pure damage, or is it white damage? It's a bit confusing due to its nature i
chamomileess
QUOTE (PlagueXRoamer @ Dec 20 2009, 08:05 PM) quotecSoul Pact's description says its damage is not mitigated by anything. I'm not sure if it applies to offensive/defense position, though it might.On the subject of Soul Pact, is it considered pure damage, or is it white damage? It's a bit confusing due to its nature icon.QuoteEndQuoteEEndI believe SP is white, which is calssified as Non-elemental damage.In essence, it's "pure" damage, like you s
mokona96
es, but when you use it, the damage is black. Though I don't know about offensive/defensive, but resist, defence, and the elemental defences mean nothing. Can this attack m
plaguexroamer
es, it can still miss. Happened a few times with Cerberus f
mokona96
ffensive/Defensive does matter. Not sure if it takes less health though. Prrobably
chamomileess
QUOTE (Mokona @ Dec 21 2009, 07:54 AM) quotecOffensive/Defensive does matter. Not sure if it takes less health though. Prrobably not.QuoteEndQuoteEEndSoul Pact still takes 15% of Gely's Health. So, I think the damage is something like this:((Gely's HP * .15) * 10) * (Position Modifier [1, .66]) = DamageOr something like that; the point is, Gely still loses 15% HP when he does Soul Pact on the Defensive position, which is 33% weaker than if he were to use the same amount of HP on the Offensive posit
plaguexroamer
oamer here. I was bored and was testing Soul Pact a bit. I've found that if the attack missed (which can happen a lot versus Cerberus), you don't lose your 15% HP. Is this on purpose An? Just clarify
chamomileess
o, I don't think it's a glitch. The way the damage works is that when the attack hits, 15% will be deduc
mokona96
t's so that you don't get yourself killed accidenta
EternalLurker
'd rather that Gelyan lose the 15% HP upon attacking, whether or not the attack proves successful, for balance purpo
mokona96
hen you waste 8 energy, and 15% of his life, though. That's o
chamomileess
QUOTE (Mokona @ Jan 9 2010, 06:12 PM) quotecThen you waste 8 energy, and 15% of his life, though. That's ouch.QuoteEndQuoteEEndWell, it's not a waste. Soul pact implies a gambit, so there has to be more of a risk involved with the attack than just 15% of your hea
